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August 15, 2007
Novell: 'We're not SCO' and we won't sue
Novell promises no legal action after its patent victory
By Elizabeth Montalbano, IDG News Service
Novell has promised not to sue anybody over the Unix copyrights that a US court last week ruled it owned.
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The company has no interest in becoming the next SCO Group, according to a spokesman.
"We're not interested in suing people over Unix," Novell spokesman Bruce Lowry said. "We're not even in the Unix business any more."
A US judge on Friday upheld Novell's claims to Unix copyrights that SCO has claimed to own. Those copyrights were the basis for SCO's highly controversial and ongoing Linux lawsuit against IBM.
Lowry said the ruling means "the cloud has lifted over Linux." Users and distributors of the open-source OS finally can breathe a sigh of relief that they are not in violation of Unix copyrights.
"We don't believe there is Unix in Linux," Lowry said. "We've been fighting that all along. It wouldn't be consistent for Novell to say, 'Oh gosh, now that this has been confirmed, we're going to suddenly take a different position' and sue companies for copyright infringement."
The Friday ruling doesn't mean the company's legal entanglement with SCO is over. There are still several claims before the court that will go to trial next month, and one of them involves payments SCO received from Microsoft and Sun for Unix licences. If the judge rules that those companies paid SCO for Unix copyrights owned by Novell, SCO will have to pay Novell whatever it earned from those licences, Lowry said.
There is nothing holding Novell back from suing existing Unix vendors. Even Novell's Linux-Windows interoperability deal with Microsoft does not preclude the two companies from suing each other. Lowry declined to speculate on the outcome of the outstanding claims of the case.
One thing seems fairly certain: Friday's ruling sinks SCO's case against IBM once and for all, a point Linux proponents were still celebrating yesterday. SCO can't appeal the ruling until the trial is over, and the company has not decided if it would do so. In a statement on its web site, SCO said it is exploring how it will proceed once the legal process of the case is concluded.
Lowry declined to speculate on how the ruling will affect that case and others SCO is still embroiled in with IBM, AutoZone and Red Hat. Both the AutoZone and Red Hat cases had been put on hold until the IBM case was resolved. Attorneys in the SCO-IBM case have until the end of the month to present what claims are still pending now that the Unix copyright claim in the Novell-SCO suit has been resolved. Another case, which SCO brought against DaimlerChrysler for copyright infringement, was dismissed in 2004.
"It's over," Pamela Jones, founder and editor of Groklaw, said of SCO's battle against Linux. "SCO couldn't find any infringement even when it had access to the entire copyrighted code base. No one else will find anything either." Groklaw is a web site that follows open-source software legal issues
Linux proponents are turning their attention to Microsoft as the next front line in the battle to protect Linux, she said.
"Microsoft is the next SCO. They positioned themselves that way with their patent sabre-rattling," Jones said, referring to Microsoft's claims earlier this year that Linux violates more than 235 of its patents.
Jim Zemlin, executive director of the Linux Foundation, agreed that Microsoft will continue to be a thorn in the side of Linux.
"I don't expect these questions around legal issues to go away, but I do expect people to see it for what it is, which is FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) fostered by competitors of the platform who have a lot to lose from Linux's success," he said. "Microsoft makes [billions of dollars] a year on Windows ... Any minute, second or day they can slow a competitor is good for them."
Zemlin also reiterated what some in the industry have already suggested, that Microsoft's $16.6 million licensing deal with SCO over Unix, an OS that Microsoft has never offered commercially, was to fund SCO's lawsuit against IBM to spread FUD over Linux. Microsoft has denied these claims.
Zemlin said even though SCO is losing its battle in the end, the legal wrangling that has taken place over the past several years has unfortunately been a victory for Microsoft. "People don't want to acknowledge it, but they got what they were looking for," Zemlin said.
He also praised Novell for fighting SCO to retain its rights over Unix in order to protect Linux. "Novell should be given credit where credit is due," he said. "They've spent tons of energy and money defending this case to the benefit of everyone."
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J Adamson said on Wednesday, 15 August 2007
Microsoft did market their own version of UNIX, called Xenix. "SCO Unix" is actually Xenix.
Joel
Sheik Yerbouti said on Wednesday, 15 August 2007
Actually dirty little secret Microsoft used to sell Unix. The product they sold was called Xenix which they ironically eventually sold part and parcel to SCO. The Sheik remembers too much. Also Microsoft used to sell OS/2 in the 1.0-1.2 days as it was a joint effort at that time between them and IBM.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenix
Oliver Klosov said on Wednesday, 15 August 2007
ya sheik kayf haluk!
Quite, I actually owned a TRS80 Model 12 that ran Microsoft Xenix 80 on one of its two mammoth external hard drives.
curmudgeon said on Wednesday, 15 August 2007
Microsoft's last licenced UNIX release, MS Xenix, was in 1985. They still own it. They licensed it to SCO, who sold it as SCO Xenix 386, and changed the name to SCO UNIX when they got it certified. SCO then replaced the MS code and had to take Microsoft to court to avoid paying royalties on each copy sold in 1998 or 1999. This was all before Caldera bought SCO.
tmrafi said on Wednesday, 15 August 2007
The Licensing deal was for WIndows SFU a current product sold by Microsoft. The product is for migrating UNIX Services to Windows
Xenix was ancient story, before even Windows was born
Renting for Life... said on Thursday, 16 August 2007
Novell may not sue but it doesn't mean they aren't out to kill all other commercial Linux distributons. Even on their site they state that there is no coverage or protection for any commercial Linux distribution.
They continue to try and sell themselves as the only Legal Linux (which is complete BS). Their Patent agreement with Microsoft demonstrates just how shady this company has become.
Linux (kernel) has been in development for 16+ years by multiple 3rd party programmers and yet they signed an agreement with the mafia-like Microsoft stating that Linux and a bunch of Free/Open Source Software infringes on MS IP.
Novell is currently embedding tons of proprietary MS code into it's SuSE distribution and other 3rd party Open Souce packages. If everything works out for Novell... they will be the lone commercial Linux distro available - they won't need to sue.
Goodbye Linux; so long Open Source; fare thee well oh Freedom...
John Hasler said on Thursday, 16 August 2007
How did you come up with the phrase "patent victory"? There are no patents involved in this case.
"Renting for Life" is a moron said on Thursday, 16 August 2007
Novell competes against other Linux distros and vice versa, but they know they need Red Hat's open source contributions. They must compete on merit. Linux isn't zero sum game, and Novell has been going after Windows customers, not other distros.
He then goes on to say they try to "sell themselves as the only Legal Linux." There is absolutely no credibility to or evidence for this statement.
The statement "Novell is currently embedding tons of proprietary MS code" into SUSE and other open source is plainly false and contradicts Novell's SEC filings and public statements made by many Novell representatives. The deal does not include ANY licensing of Microsoft code for Novell's use, or vice versa.
With all the open source hackers Novell employs, what on earth would make you think they would be complicit in such an underhanded task? Would Greg KH, a prominent kernel hacker and free software advocate work for a company who is actively trying to taint open source? No way.
Jason said on Thursday, 16 August 2007
It's a dream, but if Novell owns the Unix copyrights AND is also interested in doing Linux, why not turn around and make Unix open source and eventually meld the two together?
Shawn said on Thursday, 16 August 2007
...or at least donate the copyrights to the Linux Defense Fund or OSDL?